(Plato appears in Sir Thomas More’s chamber in Henry VIII’s castle)
More: So we meet again, Plato.
Plato: Greetings, Sir More.
M: So what shall the topic be for today’s cross-time continuum conversation?
P: I was thinking about discussing the topic of democracy today.
M: Why not. I’ll let you begin.
P: Let us first define the term democracy. Democracy is a state where freedom reigns supreme as the defining characteristic; the people may live life as they please, may take up any profession they please, and may speak without fear of unlawful censorship or persecution.… Read the rest here
The Pessimist and the Optimist
(Plato has invited Sir Thomas More in his abode for an intellectual discussion)
Sir Thomas More(T)
T: Hello, and thank you for having me this evening.
P: Greetings to you too. The pleasure is all mine as I do enjoy having these discussions that contribute to our understanding of the world.
T: Even so, I mean, a person of your stature couldn’t possibly have the leisure to entertain a fellow like me.… Read the rest here
Plato and More meet to discuss the idea of democracy as a form of government.
Plato: A democracy being a proper form of government – you cannot be serious Thomas.
More: Yes I am quite serious. It will allow for the country to prosper and for the citizens to elect officials and create a society full of happiness.
P: Democracy is a joke and does not work. Look at the state and Greece and Athens right now.… Read the rest here
Thomas More and Plato, two old friends, run into one another at a Starbucks one day.
Plato: Is that—It can’t be… Thomas More?! Long time no see! How long has it been? Five years?
More: Plato! Wow good so see you, how have you been?
P: Not so good actually. My teacher, Socrates was unjustly executed for his teachings, or as they put it “corrupting of young minds.”
M: Yeah man I heard about that. I’m so sorry.… Read the rest here
Two men are seated in the middle of a room. One of them- draped in a thick, fur coat with a silk sash resting neatly on the shoulders- appears to be at ease. Sitting up straight in his chair, he glances over at the other man and offers a soft, almost cautious nod. There is a pause, as his balding, toga-clad companion mulls over the gesture. He seems undecided. Then, after a long silence he lifts his chin and returns the motion.… Read the rest here
Lehrer: Good evening, gentlemen. Your first topic tonight is Democracy. Plato, you go first.
Plato: Thank you, Jim. I am not and have never been a supporter of Democracy. Democracy is the result of the poor overthrowing the rich and killing or driving them out. Afterwards positions will be handed out to everyone and their cousin with no thought as to whom is fit for which job. There is complete freedom for the people. This freedom to say and do as they please will result in the population being extremely diverse, with no one filling his or her role.… Read the rest here
Dialogue on democracy between Plato and More on a friday night over a drink.
M(ore): What is your opinion on social freedom and individual role in society?
P(lato): I believe in three classes. There will be those who rule, the warriors, and the masses. The masses will work, and will not involve themselves with ruling or responsibilities of the society, and a select group will take on the responsibility of leading the society for the good of the whole.… Read the rest here
Revised Paper Proposal
In this paper, I want to examine the way that gender and sexuality are viewed under different forms of government. Gender and specifically women’s role in society has always been a controversial subject because different societies view women with varying degrees of equality. In the United States, women did not have full rights until the nineteenth amendment outlawed discrimination in suffrage based on gender. Yet women continue to have lower wages and have more difficulty obtaining jobs in certain fields than their male counterparts.… Read the rest here
Where Technology meets Religion
While reading and analyzing Plato’s The Republic and More’s Utopia through class discussion, it has been made quite clear that human nature poses a major problem in shaping ideal societies. No “perfect” society can truly be formed. Even in films like “Metropolis” and “Gattaca” it was greed, lust, anger and pride that led to failures of their technological worlds and made it a dystopia. However, would those worlds have succeeded if there was a way to limit human desires?… Read the rest here
Final Paper Proposal
My final paper will compare the idea of justice as defined in Republic, written by Classical Greek philosopher Plato, to the Hindu concept of dharma. Justice is defined in Republic as balance in society on both the individual and State level, where the desires, emotions, and reasoning of each individual’s mind are balanced and each individual uses his/her natural talents to play his/her role in bettering society. Dharma, a concept originating in Vedic India, can be defined as achieving harmony within the individual and society.… Read the rest here